there was no question, the first time i saw her, i knew she was it. i had already seen 23 people for that role. and i told sheldon leonard, our executive producer, i don't know what i'm looking for. he says, you'll know when you see her. i saw 23 people. actually i went to danny thomas, who put up the money, and i said, i just flew this girl in from new york, and it's not working out. and he said, who is that girl who auditioned for me to play my daughter? she was perfect but her nose went the wrong way. >> it wasn't dramatic enough, her nose. >> yeah. so he said she was on the richard diamond show, only her legs showed are she was a secretary. i looked it up and it was mary tyler moore. she walked into my office. i saw those legs, the smile, and i knew that was it. i asked her to read something. i gave her a script. she read two lines and she had a ping in her voice. i made my hand into a claw like you find in the penny arcades.