different states coming up with different approaches. and it may well be that there's a new approach out there that helps to bend the cost curve more on health care costs because one of the problems of the affordable care act is there's nothing affordable about it. >> how are you going to -- now walk me through the coalition that you're going get to 60 on this. why is it the way forward? >> first of all, we are the first senators to put a concrete plan out there. and we expected it to be shot at by both sides, but it's so important if we're going to get to a solution that we advance specific proposals. then they can be refined, amended, and ultimately enacted. we're talking to members on both sides of the aisle. and it's attractive to people who realize that premiums have gone through the roof in their states. it's also a attractive to people