become much more emotional to them as their last days near. >> chris, if anyone saw that andrea mitchell interview a couple hours ago on her program, the emotion was right there, as joe biden -- she spoke with joe biden and the vice president expressed his love, he called it love, for president obama. again, what we're waiting for right now is we think a surprise for the vice president. although hard to know if he really could -- if it could be kept quiet in the white house. but it is president obama who will be basically hosting a farewell for vice president biden. if i can ask, we know a little bit -- i know a little bit has been reported about joe biden's next move and his plans after the white house, after being vice president. i read he'll be working with a couple universities. what more do we know? >> reporter: he said he's been made a lot of different ofrsz. it's interesting. he seems to be in the same head space as a lot of the senior staff. i know people don't necessarily