>> she rose that night. i mean, she didn't fall, she rose that night. and, you know, became the -- a very strong, powerful woman. and defended the life of her son. >> and then at last in january 2016, jane laut went on trial for murder. her friend, helen, sitting right behind her. >> do you think she'll go to jail? >> i don't. >> really? >> i don't. i absolutely do not. >> you believe the jury will believe her story? >> i do. >> and see it as a case of self-defense? >> i do. i believe that. i believe that. >> i sincerely believe her. i don't say that about many people. i sincerely believe her. >> do you usually get this personally invested in a case? >> i am always invested in my cases, yes. but do i care as much about clients like i do about jane laut? no, that's -- i would be lying if i said i did.