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democracy, always going to be some risk. we don't want to live in police states. but look here, turkey even has cracked down heavily on its own citizens. it is a nato country, but has a lot of internal problems. and it can't keep a lid on terrorists or guerrilla attacks or asymmetric warfare. we have to deal with it going forward. this virus will be with us a while. but they have got to find this one guy, frances, one or two or more, we don't really know. it is so unclear. we really need some of the direct report iing. i couldn't tell you right now if i believe there is one or with or more shooters there. i don't zblknow. >> wouldn't you say that's the difficulty now with investigators knowing they certainly want to get the word out there and get the public's help, but have to be cautious of not tipping off -- to whoever i out there, whoer is responsible could use it to their advantage. >> well, that's right.

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