we're still talking about this, why it's still sending tremors throughout the global national security architecture. >> what do our adversaries think then, in your view of this? >> they're afraid that he's about to overturn four decades of bipartisan cooperation, republicans and democrats, as you said, who have been steadily reducing the number of nuclear weapons in the world. we're down from about 60,000, 65,000 nuclear weapons during the height of the cold war down to to about 15,000 weapons now. the u.s. and russia have 95% of them. so we're the big guys. what we do matters. if putin and trump are now both talking about strengthening and expanding, as trump said, their arsenals, that's a signal to the other guys to start their engines. what's china going to do? what's india going to do? what's pakistan going to do? that's what's so worrying about what donald trump is saying. if he's talking about a new arms ce, it's all the eight, nine