now, i have to relive that and understand why i did it or what i did it for. >> 29, that number just keeps popping in my head. i mean, we know all these guys that come through. i'm iceman this or iceman that for monikers. this guy should be the true iceman at that point. >> by what he's admitted to, i would definitely have to say so. >> definitely. iceman bowles. >> hey, bowles, is now a good time to talk? about what we were talking about earlier? okay. step back for me. at this point in time, i don't know what the motivation is for jeremy to confess all this. i don't know if his conscience is finally weighing on him. if the loss of his family members is weighing on him. or if the fact that his kids are out there running around without a good father figure. i'm not sure what his motivation is to confess at this time. do you feel that part of this and part of the reason you may be talking about these things that haven't been talked about or discussed or even known by