leader stacy abram is one example of what we can do. i believe we have a persuasion problem. we try persuade ideological voters, instead of trying on persuade people who don't vote. why it matters and why the party is the right party. she would battleground states like ohio, we have a cultivation problem. in states like georgia and other states in the south and southwest, we have a registration and cultivation problem. so we need one that we follow. to be steadfast instead of always being zoosed by the shiny object which is the presidency. meanwhile we've lost over 900 legislator seats from 2010 to now. >> that's a damming statement you've raised. >> what i am interested in is just developing a whole new