base, a no-fly zone for the moderate arabs. >> you said there should be some kind of retaliation by the united states for russia's hacking and involvement in the electoral process this election year. what do you think that retaliation should be and what do you think should be the fate of sanctions against russian officials and institutions during the trump presidency? >> taking the first question first, i think we absolutely need to retaliate. that can be a mix of covert and overt. it should probably begin with showing a little more evidence of what's happened publicly without revealing sources and methods. and then it needs to be proportional so things like revealing senior russians financial dealings internationally embarrassing them and showing the way the russian government is suppressing its population,