exploration, does the idea of a major american energy company send pg its top official undermine the sanctions you think in any way? >> look, again, we communicated our policy on russia to the u.s. business community in multiple forms. ultimately each company's leadership needs to make its own decision. most companies recognize that attending this forum sends a poor message out there about the acceptability of russia's actions. >> most of the companies, most of them do, exxon doesn't. the ceo of exxon, our secretary of state in waiting, he went to st. petersburg. he told the state department, screw you, we're going to make money. it's going to hurt you? boo hoo. he sat across from putin's shadow. one point they got a big hearty