look, you know, i remember conservatism criticized barack obama for throwing these huge rallies and would say he's a rock star and brought out greek columns and i remember many democrats and progressives who wanted him to keep doing events like that during the aca fight who got mad at him for not doing it. what's the difference with him touching base with who his political base is? >> i think it would have been inconceivable for obama to do a bunch of rallies in the states that voted for him. >> you think that's the thing that botherses -- >> the whole posture is kind of one of both rallying the people who voted for him and also kind of menacing and threatening the majority who didn't, right, with these sort of menacing asides, they're on our side, they just don't know it yet, you know, we're going to like what we have in store. it's -- i don't think that i'm reading too much into this. >> right. that's my question, right, like in the words of barack obama, like, are you saying that's menacing because of the words or saying it because it's coming from the mouth of donald trump? i mean --