and statues and pianos and burnt furniture, and a lot of it wood. you could see that there was like a sign that said "come drink" and apparently a party there. oftentimes they would throw parties with music, and deejays were spinning that night, and they were there to raise money for rent. >> how many people do you know have commonly gone to the parties held there? >> i have heard different numbers. i have heard that night it was just getting started when this fire broke out, but it was still upwards to 100 people is the general idea that i have been getting and ball park from the survivors and the friends of the missing. they said that numberle could have grown significantly and talking to people on the way to the party, and never made it before the fire broke out. >> and there is something that you know covering this area, and the sort of the push/pull things