>> i think like sabrina said, mike pence is certainly going to try to be a bridge. he's not just being a bridge to the establishment republicans but he is trying to bridge to some degree to disgruntled democrats. there are mms of outraged democratic voters who are unhappy. they're going to have to get at least some democratic votes in the senate in order to avoid filibusters in a 60 vote majority to get anything done. there has to be someone who reaches out to the other side. there has to be somebody who reaches out to the establishment 57 and bridges as donald trump appeases his far right angry base. they make a good cop bad cop team. donald trump is free to insult the establishment as much as he likes and free continue to su insult democrats. mike pence sort of patches things up and says, hey, you know what sf? there's a third way. let's try it this way. trying to speak to different sides. >> substantively, it seems like