ground, being in his position. >> reporter: he could feel his skin starting to melt. you realize the volume of this when you think that's just one story among dozens. bob, by the way, knows this community very well. he says there may have been upwards 20 to 25 people living inside this artist commune. he says the number of 50 people may be more like 80, 90, 100 people in the warehouse at the time the fire started cutting through. that's consistent with the number -- the percentage that crews are working with right now as they move slowly through this building. it's a really tough process. we're going to be here for a long time covering it. back to you. >> that interview was gut wrenching. four steps between life and death. steve patterson, thank you. now to politics and the trump team fighting back the recount efforts. here is the vice-president-elect