control of the military. >> there's a reason for it. >> i want to emphasize this. i don't want any misunderstanding. when george washington resigned his commission in the continental army on december 23rd, 1783, he made an important statement, that we were not going to have a military leader be president of the united states or secretary of war or later secretary of defense. i think that's something that we should uphold. general mattis resigned. he resigned in 2013. he's been a civilian for a number of years. and i think as long as there is that cooling-off period between his service in uniform and his service as a civilian, we ought to give him the benefit of the doubt. he's very capable, and i think he'll do an excellent job. >> i think there are plenty of people who are capable. i think someone who has spent his years on the board of a corporation like general dynamics, which is one of the biggest, most powerful military corporations has not left the military behind. >> we're going to have to leave it there.