>> did you at any point look at the trump campaign think this is the single worst candidate for president that this country has ever seen? this is a unique situation? and this might not be the year where a third party should make the kind of effort they might make in another year? >> you know, unfortunately, lawrence, when you look at what's been going on over the past many elections, both parties have continued to march to the right. in many ways, the democratic party is where the republican party used to be not so long ago. and as a mother and as a medical doctor, i'm very concerned about where we're going on our jobs that are being exported, wages that are depressed, on a health care system where the costs are exploding, on a generation locked into debt. you know, we're not fixing this not, not under democrats and not under republicans. in my view, we need a new system that is not bought and paid for by the powerful few.