>> tom, look, i have to say that on the -- let's just take the health care debate. it's probably not constructive for us to try to debate a particular bill, that this isn't the venue to do it. but if you say we can offer coverage for all americans and it won't cost a penny, that's just not true. you can't structure a bill where suddenly 30 million people have coverage and it costs nothing. it can't just be political assertions that aren't substantiated when it comes to the actual details of policy because otherwise we're going to be selling the american people a bill of goods. >> selling the american people a bill of goods. president obama responding to georgia congressman tom price in 2010. tom price didn't release his own alternative obamacare.