conceptually true, in every individual instance, it was not, clearly, some people lost their doctors. can anyone who is going to under take this massive change to american health care, saying if you have insurance now, you're going to be insured, seems like no one can credibly make that promise. >> remember in 2010 when republicans retook the majority in the house, they passed the paul ryan medicare plan out of the house and they've done that every single year since then. >> right. >> and they haven't lost their majority. they've retained it. it's not obvious to me that there's this huge april price for passing the ryan plan out of the house. >> it's one thing to pass the bill and another thing when that bill becomes law. >> sure. >> so there's a very big difference in that republicans have spent eight years criticizing democrats' health care policy initiatives, criticizing the affordable care act, they will own it and they will, i will imagine, own it entirely. >> sure, but the really important point about the paul ryan plan, it doesn't change