they have and not incentive to give the job to somebody outside the u.s. >> what do you think about the idea that the evaluations, the studies, the costing of donald trump's proposals during the campaign came out to be large deficit increases, initially we were talking about $14 trillion increase to the debt, then came down to about 3. it's not revenue neutral stuff. donald trump wants to do stuff that's going to increase the debt. >> i think first of all that because they can pass the bill the way we said that it has to be revenue neutral but ohm outside the budget window, one of the weird washington things so they will be able to pass a bill that's not revenue neutral in the budget window, say over the next five years and that's probably going to be necessary in order to pass the really big bill. i don't think that in the end it's going to be on the $10 trillion range. i would guess it would be on the $2 trillion range. there's lots of details that you can fill in, which is something they've done in that house