he ended up winning women, white women in the end, so i think she has been actually behind the scenes a player in his campaign. >> how so? >> so we saw her give a speech, a rare appearance was a speech in -- out in the suburbs of philadelphia right about a week before election day. she spoke there. she kind of, you know, in an effort to soften his image with women. what she said in that speech, she outlined how she was going to be a first lady. first and foremost she's a mother, a mother to their 10-year-old son barron and explained that's why i haven't been on the campaign trail and sort of an outreach to sxwush eastern women, it appears that that sort of discussion of what she would like to do in her personal role with -- as a mother. >> she talks about working to combat online bullying and harassment. >> right. >> but, you know, lauren, her husband is really known for his aggressive tweeting. i think we've all heard about that by now. >> right. >> is there some irony to this? >> well, i think so and she was