do that alone. perfect example, 2009, city of minot floods, 25,000 displaced. for a small state like north dakota that's a lot. north of minot there's an air force base. we couldn't get the president to come to minot. we cldn't get the president to come on radio and talk to people here. there's a disconnect there. the people of the upper plains and the midwest matter. iowa mattered. wisconsin mattered. they've got to understand that or they're not going to win elections anymore. we keep losing state legislatures. we keep losing governorships because, you know what, they're afraid to sit down and talk to a person that didn't go to the same college they went to or didn't go to college and just have a beer and sit down and talk to them. >> always a good beer from the midwest. a great start potentially here of that voice being heard through you, joel, and others, that which came from the election itself too. joel, thank you. >> thanks, rism ard. >> you bet that. still time to make your voice heard on our third pulse question. agree or disagree -- the leaders