than you might have expected. donald trump thought this meeting was going to go for 10 or 15 minutes. it went for an hour and a half. the president was determined to absolutely answer any questions that he had, whether they were about foreign policy, domestic policy, or just the transition itself. look, one image is not going to change the minds of the people who are out here protesting. and in fact, senior staff have admitted to me that all the things that the president said about donald trump on the campaign trail, that he's not fit for office, those ideas haven't changed. but what has changed is they got a result in this election that they did not expect, and so, he is determined, as the president of the united states, to set an example for himself, for the country, for what this transition should be. and can i just say, finally, chris, because you've been in there, before. when i saw that picture in the oval office, and it set up, in a way, with all the media around it, and these two men in these chairs on either side of the