college educated white women who don't like donald trump, don't like his rhetoric, don't relate to him but also want to see the first female president. they like the idea of a woman. they understand -- they can relate to hillary. they can see themselves to some degree in hillary, especially the older women and they've seen her over years and years and years change as they have changed. >> ron, do you have a sense -- everybody does their anecdotal polling, we all do it, my -- i just don't sense any direction, i hear everybody saying trump, i heard michael say it, i don't know if it's true but i do think this is a weird weekend coming up. there's no win direction. where do the undecideds go? >> that's a very good question and who could be undecided at this point? we've had this conversation before during presidential elections where it gets down to the last few days and there's still a sizable percentage of