and the buildings and become a tenant. sell any asset that we didn't need to become liberty tabletop, and then the third part was to find someone to invest in us. >> it was an incredibly emotional time. on the one hand, they were entrepreneurs creating something new. on the other hand, they felt like they had failed. >> i would always go to the store with my wife and i would look at the flatware. during the bankruptcy, i avoided the flatware departments because i just felt bad. >> they had to compartmentalize and focus on the future. >> we were very good at survival. i don't know, looking back, i can't believe that we survived. >> i'm not going to say there weren't days that both matt and i looked at each other and said, you know, is today the last day? but somehow, we managed to make it through it. >> as excess equipment and steel was sold for cash to deal with the bankruptcy, liberty came to life. unlike during the oneida days, now, the factory was only open