michael dantonio. in preparing the book he did hours and hours of interviews with donald trump, just raw footage of them talking. some of those tapes have been obtained by "the new york times." the "the new york times" has been doing a little bit of reporting on them recently but they have not published this audio we are about to play. i don't totally want to spoil it here, but arm chair psychologists, start your engines. this is incredible. >> i went to military academy, new york military academy for five years, from the year before freshman. >> so eighth grade on? >> yes. >> whose idea was this? >> well, i was very rebellious and my parents thought it would be a good idea. i was very rebellious. i loved to fight. i always love to fight. >> physical fights. >> all kinds of fights. physical. >> arguments? >> all types of fights. any kind of fight i loved it, including physical. and i was always the best athlete, something that nobody knew about me. but one guy you should speak to before it's too late, because