response -- we saw those lights immediately. and i was actually hearing that there was originally reports, we were on the plane, somebody had said that they heard there was a report that a plane had gone off the runway but not realizing that that was the plane that we were on. again, this is the plane that the governor has riding since july. it's a 737. those of us who ride on the pence plane like to think it's a nice plane but i'm not sure when this guy will be getting back up and going again. we're going to fast forward here, you're going to see more staff and fire department getting off the plane. >> vaughn, you had said that you guys had some bumpy landings on that plane. am i recalling correctly, the captain, the man who had piloted the pence plane early on was replaced at some point? is that right? >> that is -- yes. we've actually had several pilots.