we're thinking we're talking about maybe he was 17 or 16 years old, when he was 16 years old, that was 1962. that's when the yankees went to the world series, they won the world series. it was like mickey mantle, roger maris. even if you don't know anything about baseball, you know mickey mantle. but it turns out none of them were the best baseball player in new york that year. no, it was this other guy. >> i was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. >> this is the best tape we've gotten our hands on in a very long time. this is incredible. all right. this is from 2014. there is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter named michael dantonio. in preparing the book he did hours and hours of interviews with donald trump, just raw footage of them talking. some of those tapes have been obtained by "the new york times." the "the new york times" has