state parties, they tell their personnel. i believe there was a memo that went out to all the committee members telling them -- >> don't do it personally. >> yeah, don't do it personally, right. >> so what about mike pence saying we're working very closely with the rnc on ballot sb integrity issues and making sure this isn't stolen. >> i can't speak for him. i do know he made that statement in august and we're now in october and none of those activities of the republican national committee personnel working in the polling place, activities has taken place as far as i know or as far as the democrats could say. >> what about the rnc staff working basically in-house at the trump campaign now. you know, rnc like sean spicer has been working basically in-house with the trump campaign. if one of the things the trump campaign is doing is getting people to sign up to go be poll watchers, does that mean that the rnc with having their staff inside the trump campaign, that they're in effect participating in it? >> no, because i think the way they're working it is that