is he tied? down a couple of points? i'm not sure. i think what i believe and the demographers i trust say the race is much closer than a lot of people are reporting, that it will tighten, i believe, as these weeks go on. karl's exactly right. it comes down to winning in battleground states. north carolina, where almost all the polls show it's very tight. ohio, where it shows trump has a lead. new hampshire, where it shows trump is slightly behind. you've got to win these states in order to be the president. and i think the next two weeks, and whether or not he stays on this message, will determine whether or not he gets through this path. >> all right. matt, well, you sort of have the car rearview mirror view of this. the polls are much closer than they may appear. we will find out in the coming weeks. thanks for spending type with us. >> okay, thank you. still ahead, revealing new numbers on early votes, something we can count and count out battleground states. you might be surprised by how many millions of people have already voted and what we can