enough can be okay. but if you embrace a trade deal that's bad, you deepen people's skepticism about trade in general and it's better to wait and try to find deals that meet your standards and not embrace deals that are substandard. >> after the election, president obama's going to be traveling overseas. probably talking up the idea of tpp and an asian trade agreement. if you guys are elected, will you pursue an asian trade agreement even if it's not the tpp? >> hillary and i haven't talked about that question directly, chuck, but look, we aren't against trade. we want to find export markets for american businesses because they'll be able to add workers the more they export. that's very important. and whether it's in asia or in europe, if we can find deals that meet those goals more jobs, higher wages and good for national security, and good enforcement provisions we're open to them. so no, you never close the door.