hillary clinton. and what's fascinating about this is they're obviously not voting as one issue voters. and at that dinner, hillary clinton delivered a very strong endorsement of roe v. wade and also the medical reasons for late-term abortions, and that is apparently -- catholics -- many catholics are not going to vote on that single issue, and that's somewhat of a change. >> not single issue certainly. robert, let's build on what eleanor was alluding to there, the issue of abortion. trump brought it up at the dinner. nearly half of catholics surveyed saying abortion is a very important issue in who they vote for. with that said, then, which of the two candidates theoretically should be ahead right now? some of the headlines have been reading recently trump and the catholic vote, it's his to lose. that was in "the hill" for instance. >> it should be in theory his to