of the whole thing. yeah, i'm the guy out there putting the cones out. that struck me at the time. i'm always suspicious of politicians when they get cute. that was a cute answer. they're, in other words, bullying the reporter into thinking that was a stupid question. how dare you say i would do something like that, so i'm the handy man that goes out and put the cones out, and he didn't actually deny it. until he gets to that sentence, i had no knowledge of it in its planning and preparation or design. that's another way to say, i didn't know the intricacies of this thing, but i damned well knew it was happening. did he tell the truth or did he lie? >> i can tell you that bridgette kelly isn't the only person saying that she told the governor. in fact, in earlier testimony, both david wildstein, who is the government's key witness in the alleged meas mooind of this plot, and bill baroni, bridgette kelly's co-defendant, say that they were at an event on september 11th, 2013, the week of the lane closures, right