i can't be objective. one thing i did notice is that trump got the memo to smile and he smiled and then actually -- but he didn't laugh. remember, we were going to look for that. see him do that human thing that human beings do, which is laugh at things. but giuliani didn't get the memo. >> no. no. >> and that's a moment that should be replayed, i think. because every -- these are events where everyone takes -- it's like a roast. like a mild roast. and i thought that -- she had one joke that i thought was -- remember i criticized trump for not having any joke work. she did a couple of those that i said, ah, and she said about the dinner, it must be rigged. if it didn't go well, it must be rigged. i liked the idea that the dinner was rigged, just didn't like the execution of that.