in all of this, is that a good bit of the industrial base of this country has been devastated, and that people that have been voting democrat for years feel that their party has abandoned them. those are new people for the republican party. if it's got enough of a brain to accept them. and i think they need to keep making the case for those people, and for clinton corruption, and what that would mean for four more years in washington, d.c.. >> all right, gary bauer, pro-trump republican says the race is not yet over. bob shrum, i know what you're going to say, but i'm going to ask you, anyway. is the race over, bob? should we stick a fork in it? >> i thought it was over on labor day, said it on your show, thought trump was in a democratic cul-de-sac they couldn't get out of. made it worse since then. and if you look at a state like pennsylvania, the latest polls show him losing that state by 12%. in fact, if you go state by state in the battlegrounds, she's ahead in virtually every one of them. i don't see what he's going to do to recover.