millions of people together to take on not just wall street, but the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance companies and create a government that works for us all. so this is not going to be an easy pass. no one -- you know, no one has ever heard me say, oh, yeah, first day in office we got single-payer. that has got to be the vision that we fight for, because that is the most effective way to provide quality health care to all of our people in a much more cost effective way than the dysfunctional system we have now. >> so then i think the question becomes, the vision of universal health care and something that, again, you have put out legislation, right? so this isn't just completely an abstraction, but there is this question of how that gets paid for. and in comparable countries, the fact is, in other countries that have universal health care, there are generally higher taxes, not just on the wealthy, but across the board. the social democracy of europe paid for benefits with higher