history regarding women, he's not going to hold up well but i i think you make a good point that it reinforces for democrats the will to fight. that's what hillary clinton needs to most for the democrats to fight for her. >> let's look at this latest poll. this is a cnn poll. hillary clinton at 49, donald trump at 47 in a theoretical general election matchup. howard deen, they did not include bernie sanders in a matchup with donald trump in that poll as so many polls ignore bernie sanders when it comes to the one on ones. the last one we saw which included bernie sanders, he had a much bigger lead over donald trump. but that margin, what do you make of that? >> i don't make much of polls before the primary election. there's going to be a lot of people coming home on both sides after the nominee is decided and there is a ton of people in the