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committed to, there's like -- lack of comfort. >> what do you see in bernie? >> you know, with bernie now, there's a lot of interest among younger voters but not much as you say among african-american voters and a lot of democrats here in the state. hearing mo about hillary, polling shows that hillary has pretty much a guaranteed win here at the moment in the state. i think familiarity. obviously, even if you weren't with her in 2008, you know where she is and to a certain degree, i think, has built on that support. >> we did mention one other name, really much in the conversation, that's donald trump. he leads polls here because he leads polls nationaly. but if he done win iowa do you suspect cruz becomes the front-runner? >> you know, it depends what happens in new hampshire. looks like new hampshire he's leading like he's leading here, to a certain degree, can cruz, someone who does appeal to the

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