time. do you believe that the obama administration is reacting to the pressure that was raised by donald trump early on in his campaign? >> well, i think, ayman, first of all, my hope is the president doesn't allow this to happen. >> right. >> but yeah. i mean, trump has spooked everybody. he has spooked the country. you know? when he talks about deporting millions of people, when it's impractical, when it's inhumane, yeah, i mean, i think he's changed the political tempo on immigration so that there is absolutely no chance that immigration reform will happen next year. he stoked up a lot of anger, a lot of inhumane feelings about refugees and immigrants and i think the victims are these children. these women. they're fleeing political persecution in central america. >> president obama won nearly 70% of the hispanic vote back in 2012. if he does go ahead with these