religious people they're willing to put somebody in there that's a complete enemy of the state. willing to go all the way to the hardest far right rail. you can't be too hard right. here's a guy with a cuban american background and very much against any legalization of anybody coming to this country illegally ever. pretty strong position to be taking. how's that much different than trump? really hard right and so what's going on now is your battle of -- seeing a battle of two fairly nasty campaigns for the hardest right position. >> but does that mean that the others are going to be squeezed out or a chance you see over the course of the next couple months a self correction or moderation of the party into the establishment candidates or marco rubio for that matter? >> easier to see trump win the nomination than kasich, christie, jeb bush, any of those people on the sort of middle of the road conservative crowd. you don't -- i can't see how they win and not winning in