people that gives the country a clear choice and that's what we're excited to look forward to in 2016. >> you were aggressive when it comes to pushing -- you were happy about this. but one of the criticisms from deficit hawks is $700 billion in permanent tax cuts, what you've done with obamacare is probably going to be these yearly extenders which if it becomes permanent, that's another $250 billion. they're not paid for. that's a trillion in tax cuts not paid for. >> i completely reject the premise of your point and question which is -- >> you don't think tax cuts should be paid for? >> that's not what this is. these tax policies are in law. we want to keep them in law. by keeping taxes where they are that means we're keeping them where they are. that doesn't mean we're cutting taxes, we're keeping taxes where they are. be was there's an artificial problem in the law that says taxes will raise, not raising taxes is not cutting taxes, it's not raising taxes. so the point i would make is this is not a tax cut as much as