general, she isn't even thinking about bernie. she's going "i won't be an anti-business democrat. you won't put me in that hole." >> and the whole issue of interpretation. the moon is round, cheese is round, so therefore the moon must be made out of cheese. [ laughter ] >> where did you get that? >> that's a good one! >> you start interpreting other things, you get away from the facts. i wish that yesterday there would have been less talk about how long it takes people to go to the bathroom than it is to deal with issues of national security that includes immigration and every single day there are families being separated in this country because of lack of immigration reform and we don't know who they are and -- >> very quickly, let me ask you this, when do republicans say to themselves "our two leading candidates can't beat hillary clinton"? polls show that duonald trump ad ted cruz are the two weakest candidates against hillary clinton. jashtion >> i do believe the news of the morning is john podesta doubling down on the video. this is the second time hillary has created a video narrative that is a lie that will become the story through the christmas