democrat, syria, you and i and everybody around the table seen 20,000 dead, 40,000 dead, 200,000 dead. one red line crossed after another. what are the lessons of what's happened since 2010 for the next president. >> to be the lesson is if you want to stabilize one of these states controlled by an iron fist from the top down and could only be controlled horizontally by the communities with social contracts, there's only one strategic approach. two components. one was no victory, no vanquish. we're going to share ours and the other is you need an external fours.