>> i mean, betsy, he brings up a good point, which was cruz's language on the subject of legalization during that debate where he did seem to leave the door open. >> yeah. absolutely. cruz said that he was open to the idea of giving legal status but not citizenship to folks living in the united states without papers undocumented. now, what's really interesting and important about this i think is how politically savvy marco rubio is being. the fact is ever since the republican debate the conversation has been dominated by basically hair-splitting about ted cruz's -- this one amendment ted cruz pushed in 2013 when the reality is that rubio has a way bigger immigration problem at least in this primary than cruz possibly does. but rubio and his team have very effectively shifted the focus to cruz, a valid focus, and it's been quite effective for them and i think it's going to pay dividends for rubio going forward. >> the other weird dynamic that's playing out here, sam, is if there is one guy on the republican debate stage that republican establishment would