before the two met up which adds further fuel to that fire. outside new numbers and some names today, was there much else coming out of this or was this more of, to your point, posturing more of a photo op in response to many of the president's critics? >> to give the president credit, he went into detail and detail in a way we haven't heard him articulate since the iran deal showing he knew who we killed. he knew what was happening with various players. he talked about squeezing the heart of isil so that it wouldn't pump terrorism. it was postured, but he showed a dexterity and familiarity with things many americans have been waiting to see. i wouldn't discount the importance of the posture in this case. >> it's one thing for the american public to hear that. it's another thing for the global stage. does this help on an international effort? >> it can help. i don't think dramatically. i think there is a tremendous