immigration completely. if we're in a war of civilizations. what donald trump was saying is obviously repugnant and antithetical to american values, and it -- the groundwork for that has been laid by years of republican rhetoric, including even the premise that people -- >> that's not just. that's just not true. >> hold on a second, michael. the premise that people need to be worried about being blown up in a starbucks. the fact of the matter is what took place in san bernardino was different from what happened in sandy hook only insofar as this were little kids who weren't killed and more kids were killed in connecticut when that attack was. these people couldn't do anything more than buy guns illegally and go out and use them and shoot them in a random killing. their motivation may have been somewhat ideological but we'll never know. the fact is they don't have the ability to do something like