talk about as though this is an outbirth of islam. >> no, this is a cult. islam has had five different cults in its history. in 644. in the 11th century. and then this one who seized the grand mosque in mecca in 1979 and those survivors went into al qaeda. this ideology is so unislamic it's anti-islamic. they consider the muslim world their victim base. >> malcolm nans is going to be with us next back on the program. next, the surgeance of guns. so jill, i know the markets have taken a hit lately. mmm hmm.