you're not only terrorizing ordinary people, the police themselves are at extraordinary risk in happening upon these guys, doing a car stop, pulling them over. their lives could be lost. we saw that in boston, by the way. that campus cop was executed by those brothers, shot between the eyes. so it's not only endangering the american public, but the cops at this point. and it's changing policing. we've had this argument about militarization. here you go. when you got a country where the people can pick up weapons at will, you're going to have to equip the police. and that makes policing change in a way that is not good. >> you know, you remind me that the police officers are often the victims in the case of john f. kennedy assassination. we had an officer killed within moments after the kennedy assassination. >> planned parenthood, right? planned parenthood a cop who happened to be a pastor, you know. we talk about the stereotype of policing. there is a person who was killed defending people's rights, the legal rights there.