that's the major point. this is very important for us to be able to get speed and time is of the essence. when we have extra hurdles added to the process, i think that disadvantages us, especially with the rise of isis. >> some would say there has always been a become door which is the 702 program that permits americans to have their records checked if they are in communication with somebody who is already being surveilled from overseas. >> well, what that is called incidental collection. occasionally if we are following a known bad guy overseas and that individual calls an american, the nsa is under very strict guidelines about what they must do with that information. it's called minimumization. in many cases you have to suppress the data, suppress the name and only really bring it forward if it's determined they are involved in an active plot against the united states which is of course what you would want us to do. >> last week or two weeks ago, rather, when the paris attacks