>> well, this network existed, fox news existed. >> i will tell you what i heard and mika and i were saying this while it was going on. i seen a guy stronger than he's ever been. >> there is this question and carl, as you guys know was out last week talking about his book and he kept pointing to the fact we all have noted it's not quiet true trump gets stronger and stronger than ever. he's been at the very top of the polls for the past five months but not gotten much above 35 so