abaaoud and the other man who was killed in the saint-denis raid, yes, you and i were here together, kate, that they had plans to launch attacks in the business district here. now, i should tell you that several days ago there were reports of this in the french media that we were not able to confirm. this is the first time we have heard that there were other very specific attacks planned and that these attacks would have been pulled off later that day and the next day with those suicide vests, kate. >> all right. chris, keeping track of all of this developing news in paris, thanks so much. turning back here at the white house, just a short time ago, president obama and the french president hollande held a joint news conference addressing their plans to fight isis and ramp up efforts to stop the flow of terrorists. joining me with more on that part of the story is nbc's kelly o'donnell at the white house for us. zplil. >> reporter: good to be with you, kate. this was a combination of tour